Friday, May 29, 2015

Combining a Shaving Horse and Bowl Carving Bench - My "Mk III" Shaving Horse.

I've got about 8 shaving horses, which I use for running public workshops. I had previously made a batch of shaving horses from packing crate material and other recycled wood, which I did a post about  in July 2014.
Since then I have made another version, like a super-modified saw horse. Let's call it the Mk II - a multifunctional shaving horse and bowl carving horse combo. My favourite horse, it is about 7 feet long, has fixed legs, and a heavy vise built into the tail of the bench. All this limits its portability.
Some of the original shaving horses, English Bodger style on the left and Dumbhead style on the right.

The Mk II Shaving Horse / Carving bench combo. A beautiful beast - with a tail vise!
The Mk II has fixed legs, as it is a supermodified saw horse at it's core. Being all jarrah, it is heavy. It is very versatile in its holding capacity, but there are times when it is too big or tricky to transport. 

I was invited by Timbecon to demonstrate Green Woodworking at the Brisbane "Timber & Working with Wood" Show on 15-17 May 2015. With my gear needing to be transported three thousand kilometres across the continent, I had the need to make a portable and versatile bench fairly quickly to catch the truck. Hence the Mk III was conceived. I was going to Brisbane, as the Mk II was not going to be friendly to ship on a pallet of stuff.

OK, so lets make a shaving horse combo which will be easier to ship. This means its got to have folding or removable legs...

Deciding on the Characteristics of the Mk III.Shaving Horse.
I built my first shaving horse, Mr Smiley, at the legendary Roy Underhill's Woodwright's School in North Carolina in late 2013. This was a classic "dumb-head" style, made entirely by hand from timber we mostly extracted from the forest using cross-cut saw and axe, then fashioned with side axe, adze, shaving horse, draw knife, brace and bit, etc. Amid the stable of horses at Roy's, there were a couple of shaving horses of the English Bodger's style. I particularly liked this style.
Me using Mr Smiley. I left him in Roy Underhill's Woodwright's School stable. 
Mr Smiley, with embedded Australian $2 coins for eyes. 

Horse-cam. Making Mr Smiley's walnut legs on an English Bodger's style shaving horse at Roy's.
Not sure why, but I seem to prefer the English Bodger's style of Shaving Horse. Hence the Mk II and Mk III were both made in this style.

Veritas Tools used to have free Shaving Horse plans available on their website, which I saw before planning the Mk II. One of the things which caught my eye was the use of the back end of the bench/seat for additional holding options. Now there was an idea...

When doing bowl carving, I have been using a very low wide-topped saw horse which has dog holes in its top for gripping he bowl blanks. What if these functions were built into the back end of a shaving horse? When I made the Mk II, I even installed a big vise in the back end of the bench. Awesome.

As the Mk III was to be portable, I would make the horse a little shorter than the MkII, put a twin row of dog holes in the bench for bowl carving, and not install the vise (which would add a lot to the weight).

Of course, it would be made from recycled wood. I happened to have a couple of ancient house beams, of Oregon (known outside Australia as Douglas Fir). I docked one of these to length, dressed the stick, and bored dog holes in it. It would be a nice solid bench/seat. Jarrah would be used for the legs, treadle frame, the ramp, and the bench accessories. The legs would fold, and be held flat to the bench when packed flat, using a couple of coach screws. To put up the legs, undo the coach screws, fold the legs out, and wind in the same coach screws in at the base of the struts. Solid as a rock.

The horse/bench folded flat, with all the accessories.

Fold up the legs, and wind in the coach screw at the base of the prop.
The assembled shaving horse. A rotating head on the treadle frame.
Variability with 3 hole positions in the bench, and 3 holes in the treadle frame.
Rotating head, and a sliding support block under the ramp.
Bowl holding on edge. The foot vise is fantastic. You sit behind the end post.
A couple of sets of folding wedges and side blocks.
Great gripping power when adzing out bowls.
Holdfasts go well for holding work too.
Not a bad beast. Solid, reliable, and versatile.
It's also much easier to ship and to pack away than the Mk II.
You still need a small box to hold the bolts, head, and accessories.
The Mk III takes about 5 minutes to assemble, creating a very solid saving horse, bowl carving bench, and general low bench. ... I do miss that tail vise though!

I love the way ideas evolve...
The Mk III was test driven for the first time at the Brisbane Wood Show. A nice horse too.
The film crew from QUT did a story around my demo area.
Here you can see the Mk III in action, ridden by Bernie the Journo.
This pic gives an idea of the size of the horse.

Don't worry, I am already thinking about the possible characteristics of the Mk IV!!
The buzz-"phrase is "Continuous Improvement", isn't it?

It is exciting that so many people are interested in Green Woodworking.

As a consequence I have been contacted by an overwhelming number of people seeking more info and measurements for the Mk III Combined Shaving and Bowl Carving Bench.
You will be pleased to learn that I will have detailed plans for sale in the near future, soon after the upcoming launch of my website. Yes! A proper website after all these years! This should be on line before Christmas 2017. There will be other plans available too, and other resources, as I am always cooking up new devices, like my new Tilting Bowl Carving Bench. 

Here are a few pics of the prototype. A couple of tweaks and small changes, and this awesome device will also be up on the new website with plans available for sale.  

The bowl blank is held between the two end stops by a pair of folding wedges.

The Tilting Bowl Carving Bench has 4 angle positions in which your bowl blank can be held.
Flat (0 degrees), 30 degrees, 45 degrees and 60 degrees. 

Work raised in the 60 degree position. It also can be held at 45, 30, and 0 degrees (flat, as per the previous pic)

In the flat position it is also good for paring with your gouges after the adze work.

Remember, Folks, plans for the MkIII Shaving Horse (a combined Shaving Horse and Bowl Carving Bench) and the Tilting Bowl Carving Bench will both be be available soon just after the launch of our new web site - along with other plans, plus lots of free information and inspiration to help you on your green woodworking journey.

I just love to share the joy of traditional woodworking with others.
Wood is a gift from the trees. Honour the trees by making beautiful things from them.

Greg Miller, Perth, Western Australia.  31 October 2017.   

Note: the plans are now available to purchase. They are quite comprehensive, being 9 A3 pages made up of scale drawings and some photos, but you can always print them out in A4 if you wish. Available in pdf format, the cost is AUD$50, which in the current exchange rate is approx US$37. To all those who have been waiting, my sincere apologies. I had hoped the plans would be available on my hew website, but this is not yet operational.

To purchase these plans, please email me and right now Paypal would be the easiest way to go, until the E-commerce site is up and running. Sorry about any inconvenience!
Kind regards,



  1. Thanks for posting this article, I really enjoyed reading it. I found your site because I was looking to see if anyone had made a pole lathe/shavehorse combo...haven't found one yet but I was thinking of combining the two for fayres etc. So the legs on the left side of the lathe would also form the front of the horse. Or something! I don't know I'll figure it out one day. Cheers and take care. Matt (Somerset, UK)

    1. I am with you, Matt. I was planning to do the same thing with my Mk II Shaving horse/Bowl carving combo bench. I even did some preliminary sketches - but just haven't had time. Meanwhile. I am working on the Mk IV Multi Horse! It's a Shaving horse/Bowl Carving Bench/ Spoon Carving Mule Combo. Hmmm, maybe I could add the pole lathe as well??

  2. Do you sell plans for your Mk III shaving horse?

    1. I don't sell the plans, Brian, but if you flick me an email, I will happily send you some info/measurements and some detail pics, as I have done for several others.

  3. I am interested in what you have on the MKIII, I think it would be a wonderful summer project. My email is thank you...

  4. Greg, I would be interested in receiving whatever plans/info you have on the Mk II, III (or IV). Thanks!

  5. Hi Greg, I am also interested in receiving whatever plans/info you have on the Mk II, III (or IV). - Cheers - Doug

  6. Greg- I would love to get a copy of the plans is they are available. Thanks - Dan

  7. Hi! My son is a new but obsessed bowl and spoon carver and wants to build a shaving horse. Any plans you would share would be very much appreciated by him and me, his mom, who loves to see him gaining new skills....Thank you. My email is:

  8. Hi Greg- l am a novice bowl carver and have been looking to build or have simeine build me a shave horse. Your combo shave and bowl is awesome! I saw that you do not have plans but are you still willing to send pictures and some measurements to me? I would really appreciate it.

  9. Please send me an dmail when you have your web site up and running as l would like to purchase plans for the bowl /shave horse.
    Julie Tilden.

  10. Hi Greg, I would be keen on making your Mark 3 (or Mark 4) my holiday project, if you'd be so kind as to share any additional info/photos/measurements you may be willing to share. Many thanks in advance.

    1. Gidday, Jorge. As the last part of this post says, the plans are now available for purchase. I intend to produce plans for sale of the Mk II and others, in due course.

  11. I would love any plans or information on your awesome shave/bowl horse. thank you

  12. I'm a spoon/bowl carver living in an apartment with limited space. As such most of my carving is done either in the kitchen or out in woods... Any info you could give on building the bench and measurements would be much appreciated.

  13. Dobrý den Gregu, v naší krajině není koza typu MK III běžně používaná.
    Byl bych Vám vděčný za nějaké bližší informace o stavbě. Srdečně děkuji.

  14. Greg, very nice work. I would be interested in obtaining measurements etc from your Dec.16, 2016 comments, I have just moved to Memphis Tn and do not have a shop yet, This would be a tremendous help. Thanks and happy New Year to you.

  15. Hi greg, I'm very interseted in the plans and measuments.

  16. Gidday, Jan. The plans are available to purchase. Send me an email from your email linked to your Paypal account and we can take it from there. Cheers, Greg.